I have an employee who just isn't working out. He's such a nice person, but he isn't getting the job done. How do I go about breaking the news to him?
We all want to work with nice people. It makes going to work and doing our jobs much more enjoyable. But, of course, being nice just isn’t enough. It does make it harder, though, when an employer must have the difficult conversation necessary for letting a nice person go.
Whenever we need to have difficult conversations, such as telling a nice person that he or she is simply not working out as an employee, it’s important to be as honest as possible. That being said, getting to the point where you need to let someone go assumes that you’ve had a number of conversations before this final one.
In fact, it’s extremely important that you have laid out, well in advance of letting the person go, where the employee has fallen short and have helped to develop strategies to overcome his or her difficulties. You don’t want to leave yourself open to a disgruntled ex-employee who didn’t feel as though he or she was given a fair shot. But if you’ve tried strategies to help your employee improve his or her performance, then it might be time to have that tough conversation.
When kicking off the conversation in these situations, start with the positive — what the employee has done and what you valued most about the person’s time as an employee at your company. Then transition the conversation to areas of growth and challenges and why it’s necessary to let the person go. You want to be able to give employees feedback and guidance that they can use in the future to help them succeed in a future job. It may be that they’re in the wrong job, in which case you can help steer them in the right direction.
If you're willing to provide a positive recommendation, let your employee know. Indicate that while he or she didn't work out at our company, it doesn't mean that there isn't a better fit elsewhere. Lastly, don’t be too hard on yourself for not making the right hire in the first place. Remember that we all learn more from our mistakes and failures than from our successes.
— Toddi Gutner
Aaron C - San FranciscoI've never been fired, per se, but I have been downsized. I can tell you that that situation requires the most empathic possible attitude by the firing manager. The person being fired is terribly vulnerable, and hostility or uncaring efficiency by the firing manager are simply mean.
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Jimy - China SuzhouI think if all the managers like you,the world may become warmer; Take the firing or downsizing work seriously, it's the respect and responsible for yourself and others.
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Joseph Lattimer - SeattleIs it ever possible to say that you just have to cut costs, even if that's not the reason?
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Coco - 90212I guess you can or at least use it as an extra excuse, but I think is best to be honest so that person can change something for next time. By beeing honest you are doing that person a favor.
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Jack Paulson - Los AngelesHow about you say, "I'm a liar, and why would you want to work for a liar?"
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Bill Storey - IndianaMost companies do say that... mangage cost structure, reorganize to better position the company for growth, eliminate duplication. If cutting costs was truly a reason, top executives would take pay cuts and forego bonuses. But because those execs have employment agreements, they can leave or sue if the company significantly alters their compensation. So who get's let go? The lower/middle level people that actually do their jobs.
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lans - miamiYou are so right!!!! Mr. Bill people like me. Middle class just trying to make a buck, and sometimes have to go an get two jobs to make ends meat. I still say voting for the rich an making this country low class and rich class isn't going help WE the people become a better an powerful country. Where going to end up like other country, looking for help, when we where helping other nations come up.
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Leigh Carson - Weston, FLAnd, of course, you could always try mentoring the employee before having to fire him. You know, explain that if he does not do so and so at a quality level of so and so, then he'll have to go. Be honest, kind, and direct. Set milestone goals, and track his results.
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Don Ryan - Sayre, PAFiring should follow progressive disciplinary action. The primary purpose for progressive discipline is to assist the employee to understand that a performance problem or opportunity for improvement exists.
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disgruntled - indian claybanksSpoken like the trained robot you are. No conscience involved. I have spent my life under abusive bosses who speak the same textbook language you do. Anyone can do any job if they have good leadership. Your "textbook" leadership talk is something you learned in a course you took somewhere, not from having to deal with anything real. Your power has gone to your head. Imagine that the people you were given to work under you are by some miracle the only people left for you to lead that ar
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Coffeedrinker - TexasDisgruntled...it sounds like your attitude is your biggest problem.. IF you have been fired numerous times then maybe the problem is YOU....
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Another perspective - Wisconsin"Anyone can do any job if they have good leadership." Wrong. It takes self motivation, responsibility, desire for mutual good, respect for team members, and willingness to strive for continual improvement not just someone elses "good leadership." Perhaps your disgruntled attitude effects you ability to be a team player more than you realize. As a team leader, I would see you as a toxic personality--blaming someone else instead of taking responsibility.
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d-fens - memphisi think the problem may be you coffeedrinker..this person never said he was fired numerous times..you know that book about which hat to wear at different times? why dont you go try on your *** hat...the problems in the world are caused by people like you!
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Lisa - MichiganAnyone can't do a job with the right leadership. I just had to fire someone who I worked very hard with to help her succeed. She couldn't remember anything from one day to the next. We have a lot of resources in our company for her to get help, but she didn't use them. She was also given two chances to get training for pediatric phlebotomy, a requirement for her job, but she couldn't learn it. The phlebotomy specialist who was teaching her is the best, most patient teacher there is. She tried ev
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Blindsided - MinnesotaWhat you DON'T do is blindside your employee while they are dealing with a sibling who has Stage 4 Cancer. I notified my employer as soon as I found out my sister had cancer, and said that when the time came, I would need to be with her in another state than what I worked in. When the time came, they told me I couldn't leave under FMLA(although they had said they would set up the paperwork) as siblings aren't covered. When I left anyway, they termed it as job abandonment, when it was really
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KeepBusinessRunning - SeattleSorry but an employer doesn't have any responsibility to keep you employed when you simply can't or don't work. You situation was unfortunate but a business needs to keep running, and when the employees aren't there that doesn't work.
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JKinFL - Clearwater, FLYou're missing the point! Blindsided spoke to her employer AHEAD OF TIME... was told they would set up the paperwork... and THEN when the time came to take her leave of absence everything changed. Simply put... they LIED!!
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KeepBusinessRunning - Seattletoo bad, don't ditch your responsibilities and then complain about it. everyone thinks they are entitled. no wonder this country's in trouble. anywhere else you actually have to earn and work to keep.
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Unemployment - VilleKeepBusinessRunning: If Blindsided has kept proper documentation of the Employer responses that led up to the eventual back tracking and unmet promises his/her employer may be quite unhappy to find that corrective legal action will be a drain to the businesses bottom line (I.E. Lawsuit will be found in favor of the Litigant). Proper forsight by both the employer & employee would have necessitated the pre-leave training of a suitable replacement. If necessary, a temp worker could have been se
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JKinFL - Clearwater, FL@Unemployment... well put. I'm "guessing" the bottom line costs involved of hiring & training a new employee VS.bringing in a temp. are far higher. @KeepBusinessRunning... your attitude (i.e. Tea Party viewpoint) is why this registered Republican voted Democrat when I filled out my mail-in ballot. For Gods sake, the person above had a dying sibling and followed PROPER PROCEDURE in asking to take time off!! What the hell else should she/he have done???
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JKinFL - Clearwater, FLWell, my previous response got flagged because I said the "h" word. So I'm going to keep this one short. @KeepBusinessRunning... Since the person above followed PROPER PROCEDURE in asking for time off... WHAT else should he/she have done??? Turned their back on a dying sibling??
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Blindsided - Minnesota@JKinFL--Thank you for your responses. I did follow what I thought was proper procedure in notifying them as soon as I learned of my sister's illness. HR said they would have FMLA paperwork ready for me. I trained a temp on my job for 3 days before I left, and it wasn't until I said I needed to leave that they said I couldn't go. So yes, they lied. I trusted them and they lied. @KeepBusinessRunning--well the short answer is you're a cold one. You'd fit well at my old company. HOWEVER, I
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ed - laBlindsided: My sincere condolences. I had an almost identical situation. It was the worst thing that ever happened to me. Losing my brother was hard enough, but the company came down on me like a ton of bricks because my boss (who was literally having a nervous breakdown) created havoc, and tried to implicate me in his nonsense. We were both given the boot. He didn't care (he had a rich wife and wanted to quit) but I liked my job and needed to support myself. And they knew all this. Anyway, hop
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Blindsided - MinnesotaThanks ed. My condolences to you also. It's hard to move forward when the question comes up of "Why did you leave your last job?" The answer brings back all the hurt and pain of losing my sister(who was my best friend), and the stabbing in the back at such low point in my life by a company I also liked and believed in. That being said, I think that the FMLA act needs to include brothers and sisters in who is covered as family. Grandparents are covered, but not siblings?? Or even
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R. J. Belmonte - Chicago, ILI think you have to tell people up front, before you hire them, that there is the possibility that they might not work out, that your company is involved in a highly competitive business, that there is little room for error, and that if someone better comes along the company will replace you with that person. The best interests of the company come first. Or tell them that the company may have to downsize if it can't get the funding it needs. But this has to be done up front. Then people will und
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disgruntled - indian claybanksHere is an honest person. It is unfortunate that employers spend most of their time telling lies to their employess. I never believed in having a workers union in my life until I watched what the principal of a school can subjectively do to ruin the life of a good teacher, just because they are too lazy to give them a little help.
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unemployed - IndyHigh turnover happens when people are told upfront that they may not be there long. The best interests of the company should come first. How about if an employee has been with a company 5 years or more and the things are changed in the department on how to do the job? Additional responsibilities are added in every area and everyone is not completing their assignments. the option to hire more people is inevitable but is not done. The nice people who is committed to the job is not going to get a
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Bill - IndianaR.J., I don't think having that discussion upfront will help because it's already known. No job is ever permanent per se, but you have that talk upfront and you put people on eggshells and make them always look over their shoulders. Can you really serve a company that is always threatening to replace you? Yeah competition is high in certain situations, but I've heard the comment "people are the Company's greatest asset", yet at times are also treated very poorly... especially when the
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Unemployment - VilleR.J: Why don't you just tell prospective employees that the company their seeking employment at is nothing more than a PONZY SCHEME !!! The workforce reality in 21st century America is based on extracting as much production out of the least number of human beings as possible. Work life balance was never anything but a myth and has become a complete joke in the ever diminishing U.S. economy. A reasonably competent individual that has the prerequisite traing and/or skills can be successful if
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KC - LAJust watch the movie Moneyball. Do it exactly like that.
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LL - Largo, FLDon't let it drag on too long - If it were you, would you want to listen to your "ex-boss to be" tell you a bunch of positives about yourself, then tell you that you are fired? Not me. Putting it bluntly, 1 to the head is better than 5 to the chest. Don't waste their time, or yours. Very, very important to be polite, professional, to the point, and positive.
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Worth trying to train... - Mesa, AZThis topic is a load of crap. I'm an elderly about to retire widow that deserves to finish my tenure and live out my golden years with as much money as I can comfortably get by with and your bottom line will ensure I ****** out my nearby ****** eating as little as will sustain my miserable existance so feel free to let me go. Or, i'm a perfectly employable young man with a wife and young child that are both relying on me to provide a reasonable ****** for, and you must cut me from your completel
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Unemployment - VilleWorth trying to train: Your wrong in thinking that being either elderly or a widow means anything let alone garantees you the right of finishing your tenure at your place of employment. You might want to get comfortable with homeless shelters and food kitchens in the not to distant ******* According to the prevalent Republican attitude, all employee's are no more than independent contractors waiting for their next job and/or pink slip !!!
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rwclim - hollandTime change so do employee have to change to meet new demands. The Company should have plan 5 years ahead who needs to be retrained for the ****** and who cannot be trained. Prepare this untrainable to a different job or retrench them with a good reason.
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Coco - 90212Good call. Specially with Obama policies lots of small companies are starting to shrink, so it is harder to keep a job even if you are a great employee
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ChrisLPNY - NYCLeave the political crap for another board.
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Me - MichiganYou could always do what my former employer did... here's a doozie! You could wait until they are on APPROVED FMLA maternity leave and then send them a letter via FEDEX, and make them sign for it, telling them they were terminated the day before. Really classsy.
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John - SEHow about getting a text message on the way home after work? Yeah, some people are legit crazy and rude!
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Patrick - MarylandI don't agree with some these recommendations. Nice or not, you're FIRING the employee. Show him or her a final gesture of respect by cutting right to the chase. If you lead off with positive remarks and highlight areas where an employee added value to your company then you're going to ultimately sound patronizing and/or disingenuous when you lower the boom. If progressive disciplinary action has taken place (as it should in these situations), then there's no reason to beat around the bush bec
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ChrisLPNY - NYCI totally agree - the recommendations sound very similar to the "It's not you, it's me" line people use when dumping someone they are dating. And we all know how well that works. The one thing I do agree with is if you are letting someone go for performance reasons, it should not be a surprise to them. I have seen situations where people do a terrible job all year and receive no feedback until the end-of-year performance appraisals. That's not right.
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CPA - IndianaWhat if the employee is a contractor/temp to hire and is doing a pretty good job but may not be the nicest person? The person is transparent and honest and not that interested in being all giddy but focused on getting the work done. All the feedback has been positive about the quality of work on a very challenging assignment. The Fortune 500 company is so large, it has more Consultants than full time employees and is in the process of restructuring. Some full time employees are getting by... no
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LuisG - OrlandoGood managers makes any person a good employee, if you need to fire someone you also failed as a manager, enuff said.
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ChrisLPNY - NYCPerhaps if the job is putting hubcaps on tires on an assembly line. But there are far more complex jobs where your statement is completely wrong.
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James Caden - VirginiaI was fired in the exact fashion that was described above. They started out saying everything I was doing right and had improved on and then told me I was terminated right now. I don't understand the theory of telling someone what they did good before firing them. It gives them false hope that they won't be fired.
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Patricia - MichiganAfter a great review, scoring excellent in 10 out of 11 categories, and the next best highest in the 11th, given a bonus and raise, I was "brutally " fired 90 days later-in those 90 days, I had completed the build out of a new office, had an EMR that guaranteed the first $$ without cost to the practice, upgraded in areas, and still continued with day to day management--I was with the company over 11 years and turned 61 two weeks before I was fired. We just moved to the new office, I wa
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Fred - Philadelphia PACurrently working a job where the manager has no knowledge whatsoever about the position. It is a very small company and they have lost 4 people in this position within the past 7 years! Somehow I think she is more of the problem then the people in that position.
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Career doc - Minneapolis, MNI have spent 30 years running an outplacement and career management practice, and I strongly disagree with the comments in the article focusing on firing an employee. When terminating someone, it is not prudent to compliment them on their performance unless the termination is due to a corporate downsizing/restrucuring. You do not need to denegrate the employee as a person, but the rreasons for the termination need to be presented in a fashion that legally protects the company from adverse ac
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Jenny - DakotasI would hope to never be employed by you. I believe it is always the responsibility of a good manager to let the employee know their strong points so that they can build and grow from this input. I don't think you read Toddi's response well, as you would know that many conversations around employee performance had already taken place. Nobody deserves to be treated in a manner that makes them feel like they have nothing to offer. I'm amazed that you have 30 years of experience and have not learne
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DB - ColoradoIf you are at the level of being terminated, you should be fully aware of your lack of performance. Most companies have a process of communication before terminating an employee. If you're a good manager, you would have already given direct feedback. Once you reach the level of terminating an employee, there should never be any surprises.
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seer818 - nowhereU don''t have to fire him, the normal thing is to humiliate them so much, that they go find another job....or is that just my experience?
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100000101368019A lot of the time it is the employer rather than the employee!!
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Rhythmman - PhillyThat sounds reasonable if your immediate supervisor isn't unstable and provides few guidelines about how to do the job. It's almost impossible to respect any feedback from someone who is a moody, micro-managing, unprofessional individual who thinks they "own the store" (program), so to speak. The problem wasn't about niceness or not- it was that I didn't recognize that there was no way I could perform up to the ever-s
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BA - 01950Most bosses are stupid. Every nice person is valuable. Why not try and find a position in the company where this person can excel (i.e. customer service). I have moved several people to different positions, based on what I think that there strengths are...with very good results. It is hard enough to find good people today , as long as they are kind, dependable, and have good attendance records I will find a place for them in my company !!!
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Lottie - North DakotaI liked this answer because I believe it did show a lot of empathy for the employee. I think Toddi is right on that many conversations should have already taken place and from that I would think that mentoring and further training had already been discussed and/or already been done. Having a nice, integrity based employee that shows up for work and is conscientious about their work is integral to any business or organization. An employee that "gets things done," but is ruthless or devi
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Jaw Breaker - TexasWhat the hell kind of an article is this? Our entire country is sucking eggs and you post an article about firing people! WTF is wrong with you people?!
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Nice Person - SacramentoThis sounds like more mumbo jumbo HR ********* Cmon, Really, no wonder we here about disgruntle employee's coming back and shooting up the place, it prabably because of idots like you or managers that don't know how to manage. It amazes me how many people are in a supervisor or managment postion and are clueless about working with people and have know people skills whats so ever and got the postion becasue they knew a buddy or where friends with the person doing the hiring. I see it so many t
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Rusty S - So CalI worked for a fortune 500 company, lets call them Disco. When upper management comes up with a "plan" that doesn't work. Who do they fire? Thats right the guys below them. It's NEVER upper managements fault. I was given a choice to sign a doscument which in essence, black lists me from looking for other opportunities within AND if I don't hit my numbers the next time, terminates my employment. Oh my second choice was to resign which at least keeps the door open down the road in case I
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redondo - phoenixRusty, did you call the EEOC? Half the time people never take advantage of this opportunity. I can tell you I did and fighting for your severance package and requesting a copy of the document to review with your legal not theirs is sometimes a notice to employers to tread lightly. Each employees case and cause are different, but never let them make you feel it is your fault. Training, albeit, good or bad plays a major part in one's success. Fortune 500 companies seem to think they have the advan
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HR 101 - Reston, VAIt is good to stress the positive, but sometimes leaders focus too much on the positive and then the employee is confused on why he/she is being let go.
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BOB - Mountain Rest SCOK MSN. You call this news? What about the real stories?
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Bill - CharlotteThe only time that I got fired in 37 years of working was by a Manager from India who replaced me by someone from India! Have worked the next 6 years with no problems.
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Mama68 - USASorri, Toddi. Take it from a loyal employee who was targeted by her director-there is no nice way to fire someone. A person's job is how they survive, idenitfy themselves, and just LIVE. Aaron C: You are so correct in your statement: "The person being fired is terribly vulnerable, and hostility or uncaring efficiency by the firing manager are simply mean." After seven years of employment, I was drug into an HR office with no warning (and no prior disciplinary actions ever as an employ
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dean - iowaHaving been there, I can tell you that the least said the better. Nothing you say is going to make this a plesant experience Be honest and get to the point. That I say from being there.
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losluv - southbendThe problem with lossen a good employee, is the lost of growth in both asspects. My oppinion, the co-worers who get help, from a good employee, such as a friendly and respectful work place. A boss gains trust with an average production, that maintains a stable buget and leveled capital. New employees take away from knowledge on the job exspirence and or the safety knowledge for training. Keep a good worker add to them and build a american family company. Over worked employee, quite and move on f
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PETER ALIFUI - GHANAPETER, GHANA. Knowing very well that there are two sides of every coin, both the employee and employer should know that once there is hiring, there should be firing. Having this knowledge base created during orientation and in-house training and showing the processes involve in it, I personally think for a nice worker to fired makes it a little easer (because He/She will understand it better). Query in a form of words, letter etc might have been given to the employee, therefore making the
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your boss - some poor *** country USIf you ain't in the crowd say it out loud.
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Redondo - PhoenixHave been laid off three times in my working career and I have made it really easy for my supervisors. One even cried as she laid me off. I was all smiles as knew the severance package would adequately cover my mortgage and outstanding bills. Went back to software school and took the time to find the right career instead of a dead end job. Now retired and still working parttime with the elderly, life is good. Don't look back and don't bring your old job when interviewing for the new one, unless
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Past HR - OregonI once downsized someone who was wonderful but was just caught in an economic crunch this way: I told her that on this date she was going to be let go and why. This gave her a month to find other work and we would happily accommodate her need for interview times. I felt she had earned this respect and trust, and she did not let me down. By the time the due date arrived, she had indeed found another job. We parted friends and still are.
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I need a new job - EvansvilleWhat if the situation is reversed: if the boss is an overly aggressive and moody slavedriving control freak; the company is an unsafe, filthy hellhole in which to work; and the hours employees are expected to work without breaks and short lunches, if at all, in long workdays, make the job one that "just isn't working out"? What is an employee to do then, when there are no other jobs to be found and one must have a way to keep a roof overhead?
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your boss - USAI don't let managers tell me what to do. I have to manage them. Here is my advice if you don't like your boss then you fire the boss. Even if you have to quit. I know who works, and who don't work.What front line soldier needs sensativity training in a combat zone? For real. I like Donald Trumps approach "Your Fired", now get out of my office :-)
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Mo - MoWe had to let go an extremely nice employee. We did what the answer suggests and started with the great things that made it hard to let her go. Then we pulled out our documentations and highlighted the job performance issues that we tried to trrain and retrain her to keep her. Anyways, it wasn't working so we let her go but offered to write her references for ****** jobs and we also suggested smaller venues for her try to her skills at. It ended on a positive note but it sure was not easy.
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Steve Harkness - BremertonThe worse way I have ever heard of someone being fored was by email. Talk about cold, sterile, and heartless, but that is the face of the American Corperate machine.
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100002312890989In Purchasing, it is a lot like sports. You expect to get blamed and fired eventually. It goes with th territory. When anything goes south, Purchasing is where the finger points first. I have started in companies where I had to prove that Purchasing was not the problem. Under those conditions, proving you are innocent is almost impossible.
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been there - floridaUnless of course you live in a "right-to-work" state like Florida. Then you can and will be dumped without a moments notice. I was not only dumped without notice, they did it over the phone. Talk about gutless and cowardly.
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givearatsass - houstonNiceness should not get in the way of business. I work with one nice bottom feeder that kisses up to the boss on a daily basis, our boss lets sentiment get in the way and this is bad for our dept. our company and bad for the potential employee out there waiting for an opportunity, .Sometimes niceness masks the fact that they are not competent in their role
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Marie - ChicagoIf a person has a great personality along with a great work habit, they should be trained and brought up to the level of better performance. Many studies show that great interpersonal skills are valuable to a co. In a world of those that are zombies without a good personality they will bring more loss in clients and reflect badly on the co. So think twice before letting the nice person go, they can network and bring in a giood client base. One day give them an assistant that can do the aspects o
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Frosty - farmingtonWhat terrible advise on having that terminating conversation with an employee. You should not begin all the positive things then "Whack" off with the head. This would almost surly feel like being blindsided. It's best to get straight to the point. For example, "I am ending your employment with us. I think you have some great attributes but it's become clear to me that you are not suited for this position. I know you can be successful and anything I can do to help you with this pai
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disgruntled spouse - ArizonaWhy didn't they work out? Was the employee was forced into a position that they advised mgmt they couldn't do, but were given no choice/was the deck stacked against them? Was the training was no good? Or the expectations too high? ie. production environment where a person is ****** purely on numbers. Or was more & more expected until it was IMPOSSIBLE to meet production. Are others also struggling? What if the quality of their work is higher than most but their speed is slow? Employee might be a
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It is what it is - TexasYes, the best ways to ease the news of letting someone go is touching on his or her good points. Like how well they read from a teleprompter, how they never let a good crisis go to waste and being an artful liar are all plusses. Continue to the real reason that they have to go. Their ideology is that of a socialist, and is in direct opposition to what the founding fathers envisioned for this great country. They double down on stupid policies, run up epic debt, and want the government to grant f
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your boss - USAyour boss, you gotta love those right to work states. They don't need a reason so don't give em one to document. Never fall victim. I have been fired over the phone more then once by heartless scoundrels that are only trying to step on your toes to save their own skin. I don't fight for a sinking ship. Every company that I have worked in since 1984 that has fired me, or I quit no longer exists anyways. So where are you now old boss.Tables do turn. I would love to have an old boss workin for me s
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Ask Business on Main - Hespermia, CAcAI had ZERO customer 'complaints' and no problems in Orange County, CA. I found a huge house that I fell in love with and my wife and I moved to the "High Desert", CA.--I had NO idea we were moving into the 'ghetto'. EVERYDAY, it seems, some low- life parole / probationer with no house, no car, no wife and no job would buy a couple of insignificant items and then complain to management about ME personally. I was no spring chicken at 47 y/o had 25 years in the grocery business. But th
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joe - nysave all the ******** advise about who's good or bad for the job, 99 percent of the time the person doing the letting go is the person who should be let go, the fish stinks from the head
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joe - nysave all the advise about who's good or bad for the job, 99 percent of the time the person doing the letting go is the person who should be let go, the fish stinks from the head
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joe - nysave all the advise about who's good or bad for the job, 99 percent of the time the person doing the letting go is the person who should be let go, the fish stinks from the head
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Frank Rizzo - MilwaukeeI would disagree with starting with the positive. pro's an cons should be weighed during a performance evaluation. IMO you never want to send mixed messages. How do you say your doing a great job but you are just not cutting it in the same conversation. What is the individual going to take away from that. In day to day activities it is best to have clear agreeed upon expectations, then a good inteactive conversation can take place on the outcome of the expectations.
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get real - las vegasWhat if the real problem is the the boss and not the employee dumb ***
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danz - flridaIf you have a Union employers don't get away with "dumping" employees.
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Lori - SurpriseWell gee! Maybe you can tell him/her and HELP them first! maybe the lack of training is the problem?? Why dont you try to help this person. In the END, nice people always get kicked in the butt! I have seen it happen to others many times, I blame YOU. If you had the time (during work) to post this, take the time to see if you can help or redirect OR tell the employee what YOU want! Blah, blah ! You have power but dont know what to do with it?? people DO learn from mistakes AND some to grow!
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whoeveriwant2be - Anytown, USAWell . . . now you will be doing them a favor. They can go on public benefits for life, get free medical, housing and food subsidies and don' t have to put up with you.
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Mr. Warden - Beverly Hills Ca.I'm glad i'm well off and don't have to put up with employers and employees. I'm not sure which ones were worse. Good luck!
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alboy5 - albanyDo you live to work, or work to live. Become current in an interest thats saleable. Make your hobby your living. Start your own corporation, I think thats around 40 bucks.
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Mr. Wood - NYThis is an easy one. You fire the employee that is "getting the job done" This forces "nice guy" to up his game. nice guy is making less money anyways nice guys always finish last. it's a win win.
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Claire Swazey - SeattleHas it not occurred to anyone to consider a coach and counsel program? For one thing, you'll need that to document to HR that you are justified in firing this person. For another, you may be able to salvage the person. Unless you've already done the coach and counsel program and it didn't work out.
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